Rep. Jasmine Crockett Grills Kristi Noem Over ICE Detention Deaths and Blocking Congress
Rep. Jasmine Crockett Grills Kristi Noem Over ICE Detention Deaths and Blocking Congress
During a tense Oversight Committee hearing, Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett presses Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem on whether DHS has been illegally blocking members of Congress from conducting oversight at ICE detention facilities.
Crockett points to federal law that allows members of Congress to enter detention centers at any time without advance notice and challenges Noem on a policy requiring a seven-day heads up before visits. She makes it clear that oversight exists for a reason, especially as concerns grow about deaths in detention, conditions inside ICE facilities, and the reopening of the Dilley detention center in Texas.
The exchange also touches on the case of Liam Ramos, a child who was detained at the facility before a federal judge ordered his release. Crockett raises questions about DHS policies, the treatment of detainees, and whether the department is following both the law and court orders.
Congress has a responsibility to conduct oversight when lives and civil liberties are at stake. Crockett makes clear that she intends to hold DHS accountable.
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Um, I just have a couple of questions.0:03
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Are you aware that the law that was written by this Congress makes it clear that members of Congress are allowed to0:10
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entitled to enter any repres I was I apologize I have to run to vote in another committee secretary0:18
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and
Mr. Schmidt will chair and you will get extra 15 seconds but I
apologize for that. Thank you so much Mr. Chairman. Appreciate it.0:27
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Are
you aware that the law makes it clear that members of Congress are
allowed to enter any detention facility at any point in time in which
they choose to?0:37
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Yes, I'm aware of the visitation and oversight responsibility and we work every day to try to accommodate members0:45
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of Congress while taking into account the safety of those individuals that there at any time. Correct.0:51
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Yes. I understand there's litigation in this area.0:54
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That's not my question. I'm not asking you about litigation. Yeah,0:56
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I'm asking you what the law is because let me put it.1:00
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There's
there's an appropriations writer that talks about and appropriations
are law cuz you are asking us to appropriate dollars right now for DHS.
Correct.1:08
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Correct. And if we do that, you would take that as law. Correct. Correct. Okay. So, that is what the law states.1:14
1 minute, 14 seconds
Yet somehow um myself and another colleague, Congressman Castro,1:20
1 minute, 20 seconds
we ended up giving a 7-day notice to the Dilly detention facility because I had actually already gone to El Paso before.1:28
1 minute, 28 seconds
And
when I went to that facility and I asked them why it was that they were
requiring me to do something that specifically my branch of government
had1:36
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dictated was not required, they said it was because of you. They said you were the one that said that they were not1:42
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allowed to allow us entry unless we gave a seven days heads up. Is that true?1:49
1 minute, 49 seconds
No. The law specifically states oversight and visitations and we are working to facilitate those and we're at that time.1:56
1 minute, 56 seconds
Did you give the instruction that members must give a 7 days heads up or not?2:02
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We
had a policy in place that that allowed us to get Did you were you the
one that ordered that policy? I am a responsible I have a responsibility
for ensuring everybody in2:11
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that facility is going to be safe and that I have access.2:14
2 minutes, 14 seconds
No,
but that's not my question. Because let me tell you why we need to
reclaiming my time. The reason that I'm talking to you about this policy
and you're talking to me about safety is2:22
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because I did go into the the Dilly detention facility and let me tell you they're not safe.2:27
2 minutes, 27 seconds
This is why we need to conduct oversight because your people continue. In fact,2:32
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you have lost more lives in detention than anybody else. That is your record right now. So, I don't expect that y'all2:41
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are
going to be the ones that are going to be best to keep them safe. This
is why we are supposed to conduct oversight and not wait for you to give
permission.2:48
2 minutes, 48 seconds
In
fact, after I left the Dilly facility, we were informed of a measles
outbreak that was taking place in that facility. And another question I
have,2:56
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are
you the one that ordered it to be reopened because that facility was
closed under Joe Biden? Those facilities were opened with the new
administration. I'd have to look.3:06
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You're part of the new administration.3:07
3 minutes, 7 seconds
Were you the one that ordered it to be open is my question.3:09
3 minutes, 9 seconds
I
would have to see when it was open because I wasn't sworn in until 5
days after it was reopened in March. Have to look at it. It was reopened
in March of last year.3:17
3 minutes, 17 seconds
Well, then I'm sure that that contract would have been renewed while I was secretary.3:20
3 minutes, 20 seconds
Speaking of contracts, um, as I have actually, you know what? Let me continue on this line of y'all breaking the law.3:27
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Are you familiar with a child by the name of Liam Ramos? I am.3:32
3 minutes, 32 seconds
All
right. So, Liam was at this Dilly facility and it just so happened that
we had put in our 7 days notice and y'all had grabbed him six days
prior to our3:41
3 minutes, 41 seconds
visit. So, we were able to go and visit Liam. Are you aware of the court order that came down that released Liam from custody?3:49
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I am. And are you aware that the judge said the case has its genesis in an ill-conceived and incompetently3:57
3 minutes, 57 seconds
implemented government pursuit of daily deportation quotas apparently even if it requires traumatizing children. This4:05
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court
and others regularly send undocumented people to prison and orders them
deported but do so by proper legal procedures. Are you aware of that?4:15
4 minutes, 15 seconds
Yes. I said I would disagree with the judge on something.4:17
4 minutes, 17 seconds
I'm sure you would, but can you tell me whether or not you have a law degree?4:20
4 minutes, 20 seconds
Father
chose to take Can you tell me whether or not you have a law degree? If I
have what? A law degree. No, I do not have a degree.4:26
4 minutes, 26 seconds
And
and you do understand cuz I can go through a bunch of court cases and
orders that I disagree with from the Supreme Court. That ultimately that
is4:34
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the order of the court. That is what you follow. And if you have an issue, you appeal it up. Correct. That is correct. Okay.4:42
4 minutes, 42 seconds
The
court went on to say, "Apparent also is the government's ignorance of
an American historical document called the Declaration of Independence.
33-year-old4:51
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Thomas Jefferson enumerated grievances against a would-be authoritarian king over his nient nation. Among others4:59
4 minutes, 59 seconds
were, he has sent hither swarms of officers to harass our people. He has excited domestic insurrection among us5:09
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for quartering large bodies of armed troops among us. He has kept us among in times of peace standing armies without5:17
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the
consent of our legislators. Are you aware that he wrote that? Do you
know that he was writing about ICE that falls under you,5:26
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the judge? Yes. Yes.5:28
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Okay. With that, I will yield. But I do have two UC's.5:33
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The
first you see is ICE training with slashed records show corroborating
whistleblower claims from the Washington Post on yesterday.5:41
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Without objection.5:42
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The second one is um FEMA's response to Texas flood slowed by Gnome's cost controls. This is out of CNN from July 10th of 2025.5:53
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Without objection. Thank you so much.
Rep. Jasmine Crockett
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