Trans & Bi Joanna Whaley of MI Among LGBTQ Wins in Primaries | GayUSA 8/12/26
Trans & Bi Joanna Whaley of MI Among LGBTQ Wins in Primaries | GayUSA 8/12/26
This Week on Gay USA:
- In the news with Andy Humm & Mick Meenan (taped 8-12-26):
- LGBTQ results from the primary elections.
- Republicans roll over for Trump’s picks for AG and CDC.
- Anti-gay bigot in Tennessee loses Republican primary for his House seat.
- In VA, parent sues over school board blocking a Gay-Straight Alliance at a middle school.
- A NJ school district ignored bullying of a trans student and now must pay him almost a million dollars.
- In KS, police called on trans men using women’s restroom to comply with law.
- Gay New York legislators seek to lift ban on gay bathhouses.
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And we have to really escalate the noise we make so that we'll be heard.0:30
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Welcome to Gay USA. I'm Andy H. And I'm Mick Mean.0:33
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And
we're looking a little more informal today, but we are going to be
talking about bathouses after all. Possibly returning to New York. And
it is 90° outside.0:41
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Yes, it is. Uh so anyway, in the news, we're going to give you the LGBTQ results from the primary elections.0:51
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Next, you want your headlines. Where's your headlines? There you go.0:56
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There we go. Senate Republicans roll over and give Trump his attorney general pick.1:03
1 minute, 3 seconds
Uh Trump the Trump pick for the supposedly pro-vax director of the CDC was confirmed.1:10
1 minute, 10 seconds
And then Trump unilaterally tries to stop many childhood vaccines. Trump bars Medicaid and children's health insurance1:18
1 minute, 18 seconds
program CHIP benefits from being used on behalf of trans youth.1:23
1 minute, 23 seconds
He's very cruel. Uh Michigan will have have its first outtransgender member of its state legislature and it's a stiff1:31
1 minute, 31 seconds
competition for most anti-LGBTQ member of Congress. But the holder of the title just lost his primary in Tennessee.1:40
1 minute, 40 seconds
Yeah. Uh, Republic, don't expect somebody great, but that's good that he's gone. Republican elected officials1:47
1 minute, 47 seconds
stand by candidates who are sex abusers, bigots, and self-hating closet cases.1:53
1 minute, 53 seconds
Will that help the Democrats in the midterms? Well, hopefully the Democrats will put it to good use to help them.2:00
2 minutes
right-wing ballot initiative in Washington state would allow, hang on for a second, genital2:08
2 minutes, 8 seconds
inspections of girls who want to play school sports. It's very, very creepy and outrageous.2:14
2 minutes, 14 seconds
In Virginia, a parent sues over the school board blocking a gay straight alliance at a middle school. A New2:22
2 minutes, 22 seconds
Jersey
school district that ignored the brutal bullying of a trans student now
must pay him almost a million dollars in a court settlement.2:31
2 minutes, 31 seconds
I hope that will teach them. In Kansas, police called on transmen using the2:37
2 minutes, 37 seconds
women's restroom, even though uh that is now required by law that trans men have2:44
2 minutes, 44 seconds
to use the women's room. And unfortunately, a gay man, 36, is murdered in Queens, New York, in a2:52
2 minutes, 52 seconds
high-rise apartment in what was apparently a hookup gone wrong.2:57
2 minutes, 57 seconds
Miss North Carolina, USA was dethroned after racist and anti-LGBTQ social media history was exposed.3:07
3 minutes, 7 seconds
And gay New York legislators seek to lift the 40-year-old state ban on gay bathous. We mourn, many people are3:15
3 minutes, 15 seconds
mourning the the the loss of Susan Duha, a leader in HIV, AIDS, disability, and healthc care advocacy. She's gone at 71.3:24
3 minutes, 24 seconds
And Sam Smith announces their engagement to designer Christian Cowan.3:29
3 minutes, 29 seconds
There
we are. So, uh, bunch of primaries we're going to talk about this week
and last week because we learned some more results in, uh, by the way,
the tributes3:38
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keep coming in for Anne Northrup. Uh there's a big article in lgbt communitynews.nyc.3:45
3 minutes, 45 seconds
You'll hear from people throughout her life going back to childhood about an and we will link to that in our email if3:53
3 minutes, 53 seconds
you want to be on our email list. Go to gay usatv.org and sign up for the list. Uh so in4:00
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Minnesota uh Representative Angie Craig out lesbian was running for uh the Democratic nomination for US Senate to4:09
4 minutes, 9 seconds
succeed Tina Smith and she lost to the Lieutenant Governor Peggy Flanigan whose Native American would be the first4:17
4 minutes, 17 seconds
Native American US Senator. Uh and Flanigan was the more progressive candidate in that race.4:24
4 minutes, 24 seconds
Yeah. And we're seeing again the cresting perhaps or the beginning of a4:30
4 minutes, 30 seconds
crest of a wave with uh progressive uh office seekers a lot out in the Midwest.4:37
4 minutes, 37 seconds
You know, this isn't happening within, you know, the so-called uh blue cities of New York.4:43
4 minutes, 43 seconds
We are in the city council races and as some of our congressional races, the DSA candidates won.4:49
4 minutes, 49 seconds
Yeah. So, we're seeing a lot of progressives hopefully break through uh and lead us to victory in November.4:57
4 minutes, 57 seconds
And
Amy Clolobachar in Minnesota, the senator, won the Democratic
nomination for governors to succeed Tim Walls. So, her US Senate seat is
going to open up.5:08
5 minutes, 8 seconds
If she wins, she gets to appoint her successor. Is that how it works? Well, apparently.5:14
5 minutes, 14 seconds
I mean, if she was and why not whatever the whatever the rules are. But Andy Basher in Kentucky can't appoint5:21
5 minutes, 21 seconds
somebody to succeed the brain deadad uh Mitch McConnell. In Wisconsin, uh the Democratic nomination for governor to5:29
5 minutes, 29 seconds
succeed Tony Evers went to this Milwaukee County Executive David Crowley very narrowly defeating the DSA backed5:36
5 minutes, 36 seconds
Francesca Hong. Now he's going to face a deeply anti-LGBTQ Republican Tom Tiffany5:43
5 minutes, 43 seconds
in November. Uh so and he's a strong supporter of our rights. And then in Connecticut, we had told you on this5:51
5 minutes, 51 seconds
show about this Republican named Jaden McCormack who was running for a state house seat there in Connecticut. And uh6:00
6 minutes
he called for the execution of LGBTQ people, right? And among other outrages against6:09
6 minutes, 9 seconds
Catholics
and Jews, he was beaten. They found somebody to run against him at the
last minute and the opponent got 80% 80% of the vote. So, he's gone.6:18
6 minutes, 18 seconds
Bravo, Connecticut.6:20
6 minutes, 20 seconds
Well, in other words, too much even for Republicans.6:23
6 minutes, 23 seconds
Yes. Well, we perhaps will talk about something like this later on in the show in terms of, you know, he who screams6:31
6 minutes, 31 seconds
the loudest is hiding the most. But Jeremy Moss is not hiding in Michigan. He won the uh6:39
6 minutes, 39 seconds
he's out and he won the Democratic nomination for the 11th congressional district in the Democratic primary back6:47
6 minutes, 47 seconds
on August 4th. Gotif almost 50% of the vote in a four candidate race. He's he6:53
6 minutes, 53 seconds
is the first out LGBTQ state senator in Michigan and he's president prom of the Senate and if he beats the Republican7:01
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he'll
be the first out member of Michigan's congressional delegation. And
then there's Joanne H why right who is victorious in the the7:10
7 minutes, 10 seconds
Democratic primary for the uh state house seat would be the first trans woman to hold that seat. Um interesting7:21
7 minutes, 21 seconds
uh figure. She comes from a uh interesting background. I believe she uh was a hospital chaplain and a mega7:30
7 minutes, 30 seconds
church
leader. Uh I don't know how I feel about that. Well, she says, "My
Christian faith, family, community supported me as I went back to
college7:39
7 minutes, 39 seconds
and became a spiritual care provider." Well, um, maybe she she's borrowing a page from James Telerico in Texas to use the New7:48
7 minutes, 48 seconds
Testament as a stepping stone to victory. I don't know.7:51
7 minutes, 51 seconds
Well, she's definitely pro-LGBTQ, right? You know, as far as we know right now. Uh, you know, I mean, what I'll give you the7:58
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quote.
As a transgender woman running to represent every member of our
district, regardless of their race, religion, gender, sexual
orientation, or political8:06
8 minutes, 6 seconds
beliefs, I deeply know the value of freedom and the value of protecting our freedoms. Well, I like the way that sounds.8:13
8 minutes, 13 seconds
Now, uh, her one of her rivals, a Democrat, Frank Liberati, a former state house representative, challenged her8:21
8 minutes, 21 seconds
eligibility
to use her legal name on the ballot. This happens to trans candidates
quite frequently, right? And that was thrown out. That got shot down by
the election officials.8:31
8 minutes, 31 seconds
Thank goodness. All right, that's for the elections. Let's go on to the Trump news. Yeah.8:36
8 minutes, 36 seconds
Uh, so I would say, you know, sadly but predictably, Todd Blanch was confirmed by the US attorney general by one vote.8:43
8 minutes, 43 seconds
Bill Cassidy. Well, and Cassidy basically said, "Well, Bill Barr, the former attorney general, also corrupt,8:52
8 minutes, 52 seconds
came
to me and said, "If you don't get this guy, you're going to get
somebody even worse." Well, maybe Matt, they'd bring Matt Gates back.
That was Trump's8:59
8 minutes, 59 seconds
original
idea for attorney general. But the point is, I don't think it matters
who the attorney general is because the attorney general is Donald9:07
9 minutes, 7 seconds
Trump. Donald Trump is the head of every cabinet department. Nobody does anything, you know, without his say so.9:16
9 minutes, 16 seconds
You know, I just watched a documentary about Francis Perkins who was FDR's labor secretary and she's the one who9:23
9 minutes, 23 seconds
gave
us social security among so many other things. Tremendous woman. Uh she
served for his entire term. But he would say to her, you go ahead and
try this.9:33
9 minutes, 33 seconds
If
you fail, I don't know you. But he would give he gave her some autonomy
to make things. Trump doesn't give anybody autonomy to do anything.9:42
9 minutes, 42 seconds
Yeah. Well, Blanch would have stayed in there regardless as acting ag uh because9:49
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Trump seems Trump seems to have wanted this guy to be fastened to his hip. And9:56
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there are murmurings now that Blanch has been uh mentioned himself in the Epstein files in some manner or other. And so10:04
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maybe
that's the reason why Oh, he's guilty of covering up all the Trump
references. He's the one who got, you know, Gain Maxwell into a10:11
10 minutes, 11 seconds
lowsecurity
prison, right? I think we you'd have to go back probably to Nixon to
find a similar relationship between the Oval Office and an AG with uh
John Mitchell.10:23
10 minutes, 23 seconds
And who went to prison.10:24
10 minutes, 24 seconds
That's right. And who uh then became uh Nixon's campaign manager and knew all the all the secrets. He10:32
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knew where the bodies were buried and he he wound up paying a price for it. So maybe that'll happen to Blanch down the road.10:38
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Well,
and then we learned this week that, you know, Blanch on a private call
with religious groups was saying, "I'm going to go after abortion in all
50 states," basically.10:47
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All right. Just one last thing. Can I add? Sure. Of course. Go.10:52
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in in doing some research on Blanch, just to refresh my own memory as to what has happened over the past couple of10:59
10 minutes, 59 seconds
years, and it's shocking uh the type of terror that this guy wants to instill11:06
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around the country, sending a letter to New York's Attorney General, Leticia James, regarding uh the teen gender care11:16
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um in uh December of 2025. 5. He had the11:22
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DOJ opt out opt out of a 200 of a 200311:29
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gay rape law for federal prisoners, right?11:33
11 minutes, 33 seconds
Where basically they said, "We're not going to deal with this. If you get raped in prison, that's your problem.11:39
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Don't
report it to us, and we're not going to do anything to to prevent it,
and we're not going to do anything to try to help you heal from it." Oh,
so11:47
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this this this guy seems to have a real hardcore11:54
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uh element uh in his bloodstream that he is just looking to vent on.12:00
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All you need to know about Todd Blanch is who swore him in as attorney general.12:06
12 minutes, 6 seconds
He picked a federal judge who was another Trump attorney, horrible right-wing guy, Amal Bove. What a scene12:14
12 minutes, 14 seconds
that was. these two miscreants, right? They're just telling you a henchmen.12:19
12 minutes, 19 seconds
They're just telling you you're not going to get any more justice out of that of the Justice Department.12:25
12 minutes, 25 seconds
All right. And then Trump appointed the co-author of Project 2025 as the inspector general of the of the Interior12:34
12 minutes, 34 seconds
Department
who was supposed to investigate what happened with Trump's mishandling
of the reflecting pool, right? I mean, so nothing's going to12:41
12 minutes, 41 seconds
happen
there. This guy used Dennis Kirk used to be an aid to Tulsi Gabbard and
a former staffer at the Heritage Foundation. He is subject to Senate12:50
12 minutes, 50 seconds
confirmations.
So they're going to ask some questions. But Republicans, as they are
with all these things, are are confirming all these all these horrible12:59
12 minutes, 59 seconds
people. And then, you know, Trump's antivax crusade, you know, this this executive order upending uh how13:07
13 minutes, 7 seconds
childhood vaccinations are distributed is just sickening and frightening.13:14
13 minutes, 14 seconds
One of the more idiotic components of what Trump and the CDC will try to do is13:20
13 minutes, 20 seconds
to separate the measles, mumps, and rebella trifecta. So, in other words, Yes. Because because if you put them all13:28
13 minutes, 28 seconds
together, it would fill a it would fill a bottle of Coke that's going into a child's veins. That's that's insane13:36
13 minutes, 36 seconds
talk.
And they don't say that when they report this, right? And the the deal
with measles, MS, and Rebella is that it's perfectly13:45
13 minutes, 45 seconds
safe and you want to do a threein one shot. Sure. It spares the child.13:50
13 minutes, 50 seconds
We don't have separate shots for these things.13:52
13 minutes, 52 seconds
It
spares the aggravation of having to keep going back to the doctor. the
the Trump administration would like this now to be broken out into three
separate shots.14:01
14 minutes, 1 second
Don't listen to any health information coming out of Washington. And by the way, uh the you know the states are now14:10
14 minutes, 10 seconds
looking to do their own stuff on on states states mostly control these vaccine schedules and and the14:17
14 minutes, 17 seconds
administration of them. So it just it just again begs the question, why is the president of the United States spending14:26
14 minutes, 26 seconds
his time and energy banging the drum on this issue? What is the point?14:31
14 minutes, 31 seconds
Because he's psychotic and he's doing things. He's failing in the war in Iran, which is destroying the world economy.14:39
14 minutes, 39 seconds
It's
all matter a matter of a distraction. Give me a distraction. He says to
the staff, "Give me a distraction. This will this will get people
talking about something else.14:48
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give me a uh catering container.14:52
14 minutes, 52 seconds
And then so the Senate did confirm and with with some Democrat votes Dr. Erica Schwarz as the director of the CDC. We15:00
15 minutes
haven't had a director of CDC. The first one got fired by Trump uh because RFK Jr. didn't like her. And the so this Dr.15:08
15 minutes, 8 seconds
Erica Schwarz who you know has a a a long background in public health and uh you know and you know you can't you15:17
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can't
follow but she also said she supports vaccines but then he does this
stuff. Does she say anything like we're not going to follow this?15:26
15 minutes, 26 seconds
Right. I mean it's I think there is a package of 17 uh mandated vaccines that most states require and the Trump15:34
15 minutes, 34 seconds
administration is trying to get that down to 11. Again, despite the research, despite the trials that prove there is15:41
15 minutes, 41 seconds
no connection, Trump and Robert Kennedy Jr. are still insisting that these vaccines called cause autism, which they15:50
15 minutes, 50 seconds
do not, right? They do not cause autism.15:53
15 minutes, 53 seconds
Now, we one of the reasons we al we have to worry about Dr. Erica Schwarz at the CDC is that she also called abortion16:01
16 minutes, 1 second
surveillance a critical component of the AY's work. you know, states hiding abortions in their states, and she's16:10
16 minutes, 10 seconds
going to look into that. So, Planned Parenthood obviously is quite alarmed about that. Uh, and of course, you know,16:18
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we learned this week Trump, by the way, has zero regard for who else lives and dies besides himself. No, with the whole16:25
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Air Force One caper, you know, where he got off the plane and left his most of his staff and except for Hexath and uh16:33
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all of the press corps on a plane that was targeted by Iran. Correct. It's grotesque.16:39
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Yeah. and they scooted onto Trump scooted onto a uh nondescript military aircraft which which in in reading these16:49
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stories raised the question, how much do all of these trips cost?16:53
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What
is it costing the taxpayer to finance this man's what does it cost for
him to play golf? Hopping and sprinting around the world.17:00
17 minutes
Hundreds of millions of dollars. Yeah.17:02
17 minutes, 2 seconds
And I'm not against golf, as you know, but uh he doesn't he it's ridiculous.17:09
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And
anyway, uh, by the way, evidence showed this week that federal agents
are using racial slurs during their immigration sweeps. That doesn't
sound like news, but there's proof of it now.17:20
17 minutes, 20 seconds
And it's not surprising. And the FCC, the Federal Communications Commission, voted this week to remove the limit on17:27
17 minutes, 27 seconds
broadcast TV ownership, which is part of the fascist consolidation of media, particularly in local news, so the17:35
17 minutes, 35 seconds
country
looks more like Hungary under Victor Orban or Russia under Putin,
literally, because there will be no other voices. And you know, the
Congress17:44
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ordered
the FCC years in 2004, you can't have more than 39% ownership coverage,
but now they can, one person can end up owning all these local
stations.17:55
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Correct.17:56
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And how about that pig Pete Pig, excuse me, Pete Pete Hegsath? You know, he's18:03
18 minutes, 3 seconds
against
DEI, right? But he went ahead and named a military base in South
Carolina after a homosexual service member. Uh the joint base in
Charleston18:12
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will
now be known as the Joint Base Lindsey Graham after the late senator
who served as a judge advocate general in the Air Force.18:21
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Right. Your Q.18:22
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Um well, poor Lindsay. Should we speak ill of the dead?18:29
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You know, Lindsey Graham.18:30
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Yeah. Yes. Um uh Hexith and his uh testosterone18:37
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crusade I think are emblematic of everything that is absolutely so sick18:44
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about not only the Trump administration but this the GOP ethos in this era in18:51
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which we're living. Um and of course Graham seat has now been18:58
18 minutes, 58 seconds
handed to his sister Darlene. Darlene only won about 30 something% of the19:05
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vote.
So, she lost a lot more of the vote to other candidates. She's now in a
runoff. She's going to a runoff. She's not really expected to win the
runoff, but we'll see.19:14
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Well, just to swing back, she has Trump support.19:16
19 minutes, 16 seconds
Well, we'll swing back to Hex for a moment. Right now, the United States is dangerously low in its ballistic and and19:23
19 minutes, 23 seconds
cruise missile uh stockpiles, and it' be interesting to see. But Trump has them around his golf course and they don't19:30
19 minutes, 30 seconds
have them at the protecting the military bases in the Middle East.19:35
19 minutes, 35 seconds
Correct. Yes. And and Trump is in the bunker in the golf course um plugging away at uh at his at his uh his golf19:44
19 minutes, 44 seconds
game. But my point is that if this tit fortat stuff with with Iran continues, it's going to be interesting to see19:52
19 minutes, 52 seconds
whether or not Hexath gets fired. Well, he did take Hexath on the plane with him. Uh, you know, the one that he fled20:00
20 minutes
to. Now, you want to talk about some of these closeted politicians.20:04
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Yeah. We we can go back to Arthur Finkelstein, who Arthur Finkelstein was a closeted GOP operative, attack dog.20:14
20 minutes, 14 seconds
Almato's great uh buddy, right? uh guy from Brooklyn who wound up uh being one of the hard rights20:24
20 minutes, 24 seconds
ideologues and attack dogs as I said and then wound up living with his partner20:31
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male partner for a long period of time and then availing himself of marriage in Massachusetts and the ability to adopt kids.20:41
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Remind me when Massachusetts first legalized marriage. Oh, you know, sorry. Well, they were the first state.20:49
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They were among the very the vanguard.20:52
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This gentleman Finkelstein decided to avail himself of the opportunity to get married to his long-term lover. Okay.20:59
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While the rest of the country, okay, um had to suffer without going with gay marriage. And the Congress under George21:07
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W. Bush was attacking gay and lesbian people, right?21:11
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So, what's the point? The point is is that the more they scream and holler, the more that they uh thump their chest, the21:20
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more Hexet does push-ups on the deck of an aircraft carrier, it just raises the question, buddy, what are you trying to tell us?21:27
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And
my point has always been about these closeted people, is that
especially the elected officials, that's what people want, uh, the
rightwing, they want you21:36
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to stay in the closet. They would like us to stay in the go back in the closet.21:40
21 minutes, 40 seconds
They don't want us to be out. They hate this. So, that's the problem. All right.21:45
21 minutes, 45 seconds
Shall we move on? Yes. Okay. A Virginia school board bent over backward to block21:50
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an LGBTQ club in a middle school there uh in King George County and kept21:58
21 minutes, 58 seconds
rewriting the rules so that this this they couldn't have a group uh which is you know the federal government they wanted to22:06
22 minutes, 6 seconds
allow uh the Republicans wanted to allow prayer groups in schools. So they passed a law uh in in the f you know the first22:14
22 minutes, 14 seconds
amendment equal access act and that allowed prayer groups but it also allowed gay straight alliances. So this22:21
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mother
you know went to bat for her kid and uh the you know the kid it's kids
not even there anymore. She wants to make sure that in the future they
can't do this.22:31
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This is all over uh picture books for kids. No, this is about forming a group for I I know. But then the the the the issue22:38
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the
issue of uh what was also being taught in the schools came up. This
county has gone for a Republican president every time since 2000. Okay.22:47
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So my question is where are they securing all of the guns in this county?22:53
22 minutes, 53 seconds
Are all of the guns secure? Do you have your AR-15s in safety lockers and all of the handguns are carefully put away so23:01
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that children can't get their hands on these on these dangerous weapons?23:04
23 minutes, 4 seconds
And they're the same people who go after trans girls in and sports. But do they really care about girls in sports? You23:12
23 minutes, 12 seconds
see what I'm saying? They're not liberal people. They're not caring, you know, people. No, they're very very very hung up.23:18
23 minutes, 18 seconds
Anyway, we wish uh her luck in the mother in trying to get this group uh going. Um she was recently appointed by23:28
23 minutes, 28 seconds
uh Governor's Spanberger in Virginia to the state's LGBTQ uh IIA advisory board.23:36
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Yeah.23:37
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Now, we want to remind you that anti- we've told you this, but pay attention.23:41
23 minutes, 41 seconds
Anti-trans ballot initiatives are on the ballot in three states in November. And the one in Washington would specifically23:48
23 minutes, 48 seconds
bar trans athletes from participating on girls teams. And it it it inquires all kinds of genetic screening and if23:56
23 minutes, 56 seconds
necessary an examination of their reproductive anatomy at a yearly sports physical. So they're going to be able to24:04
24 minutes, 4 seconds
peek at your daughter's crotch, you know, to find out, are you a real girl? I mean, this is so invasive.24:12
24 minutes, 12 seconds
It's a boondoggle for predators.24:14
24 minutes, 14 seconds
It's unbelievable. Yeah. Right. And and this is they're basically again enabling these GOP fascists to disrobe your children.24:24
24 minutes, 24 seconds
Right. And uh uh of course the Supreme Court said, "Ah, this is fine. You can ban you can ban trans girls from24:32
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transports." The other ballot initiatives in addition to Washington or Arizona and Colorado uh that they will24:38
24 minutes, 38 seconds
be weighing in in November. Um, oh, by the way, this is all this is24:47
24 minutes, 47 seconds
backed
in Washington state by a guy named Brian Haywood. He's a right-wing
hedge fund manager. He's got a lot of money and he wants to hurt
Democrats.24:55
24 minutes, 55 seconds
So,
this is his way of doing it. Put it on the ballot. Bring out our vote,
you know, uh, and and it's called let's go Washington.25:04
25 minutes, 4 seconds
Yeah.25:05
25 minutes, 5 seconds
the other hand, Representative Seth Molton of a Democrat of Massachusetts who's trying to run for Senate, right?25:13
25 minutes, 13 seconds
Uh he semiapologized for calling for Democrats to rethink support for trans athletes. He was trying to act like I'm25:20
25 minutes, 20 seconds
one
of these practical Democrats and we got to get away from this thing.
And so now he says to the trans community feeling the weight and pain of
the Trump25:29
25 minutes, 29 seconds
administration policies, "I deeply recognize your trauma and I'm sorry if my comments hurt you." Why not just say25:37
25 minutes, 37 seconds
you're sorry, Seth? So when somebody says, "I'm sorry if it bothered you. I'm sorry if it offended you." No, no, no.25:45
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If you're wrong, you say I'm sorry I was wrong.25:50
25 minutes, 50 seconds
All right. Anyway, uh okay. Uh Tennessee Andy Ogles Ogles. Yeah. Good riddance.25:59
25 minutes, 59 seconds
This guy w I mean this is again there he is. Look at him. Uh he and once again it it26:06
26 minutes, 6 seconds
he was arguably the most anti-gay member of the house and I wonder why that is saying something.26:12
26 minutes, 12 seconds
Okay, take a look at that gentleman in that picture. I don't know. Tell me that you think that he has any credibility26:20
26 minutes, 20 seconds
when it comes to being truly heterosexual.26:24
26 minutes, 24 seconds
He retweeted something that said homosexuality has no place in America.26:28
26 minutes, 28 seconds
Happy nuclear family month. He later blamed that on an aid, but it was so extreme that even Ted Cruz criticized him.26:37
26 minutes, 37 seconds
Yeah.26:37
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But uh Trump endorsed him. But Ogles ba26:42
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bl bl bl bl bl bl bl bl bl bl bl bl bl bl bl bl bl bl bl bl bl bl bl bl bl bl26:42
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bl
bl bl bl bl bl bl bl bl bl bl bl bl blame the radical left for his loss
to the former Tennessee agricultural commissioner Charlie Hatcher uh
who will26:50
26 minutes, 50 seconds
now face the mayor of uh Colombia in this district. It's a 58% Trump district in and around Nashville. Again,26:58
26 minutes, 58 seconds
gerrymandered to try to get out some liberal votes. It's been jerrymandered to but a 58% uh Trump district can be27:06
27 minutes, 6 seconds
lost by the Republicans. So, is it fair to say that Tennessee is probably the most gerrymandered state in the nation27:14
27 minutes, 14 seconds
when it comes to favoring GOP candidates?27:18
27 minutes, 18 seconds
They
they have uh in their congressional delegation is eight Republicans and
one Democrat now, and they want to get rid of the one.27:26
27 minutes, 26 seconds
They've chopped up Memphis into three different congressional districts, which is absurd.27:32
27 minutes, 32 seconds
And
Nashville, I believe, is in two different districts. And of course,
both of these cities have large African-American populations,27:40
27 minutes, 40 seconds
right? Uh the only hope is they have uh stabbed themselves in the back with this27:46
27 minutes, 46 seconds
by diluting some of the Republican vote in order to, you know, end Democratic districts, thinking we can win anyway.27:55
27 minutes, 55 seconds
We
don't need, you know, but if you if you've got a 10% district for
Republicans, you could lose it pretty easily these days, right? Well,28:04
28 minutes, 4 seconds
what do you make of Andy losing to someone who was either more hardright or28:12
28 minutes, 12 seconds
more is he more this agriculture commissioner?28:16
28 minutes, 16 seconds
I
listened to him being interviewed. He sounded very bland. Yeah. you
know, did why you have some evidence that he's more No, I think that
maybe it might be it28:24
28 minutes, 24 seconds
might it perhaps is a sign that even GOP voters are getting tired of this type of vitrial.28:33
28 minutes, 33 seconds
Yes.
Well, this guy and they consider it to be counterproductive, especially
when they're paying through the nose at the gas pump.28:40
28 minutes, 40 seconds
Yes. Absolutely. All right. But Republicans do stand by their bigots, including Brendan Herrera.28:48
28 minutes, 48 seconds
Herrera. He's the nominee for the US House from South Texas. He's a gun influencer. 2.8 million subscribers, so28:56
28 minutes, 56 seconds
he's not a nobody on on on his uh social media.29:01
29 minutes, 1 second
He Yes. He refers to children as trophies.29:07
29 minutes, 7 seconds
Uh he has made videos in which he poked fun at veteran suicides, joked about the Holocaust. Uh he called uh German MP4029:16
29 minutes, 16 seconds
submachine gun used in World War II as the original ghetto blaster. I mean the29:22
29 minutes, 22 seconds
Warsaw ghetto. I mean wow. So uh Mike Johnson, the Christian nationalist speaker of the house threw a fundraiser29:30
29 minutes, 30 seconds
for him. I mean so not embarrassed by this guy, right? They they're all they're all going to feed from this cross. Um, this29:39
29 minutes, 39 seconds
guy Herrera went on to Matt Gates's show. It's podcast or show. I've never seen it. And Herrera wanted to make a29:47
29 minutes, 47 seconds
point. He wanted to get it across that I am in favor of trans gun rights. If29:55
29 minutes, 55 seconds
you're transgender, well, I want you to have a gun. This is this is this is again yet another opening for Democrats.30:05
30 minutes, 5 seconds
Yes.30:05
30 minutes, 5 seconds
Okay.
It's a 15% Trump district, but the Democrats have put it on their list
with this woman Kathy Padilla Stout. When you're when you're speaking
about kids30:14
30 minutes, 14 seconds
this way, there is Andy, I've said it on this show before and I've said it to you on a number of occasions in our own30:21
30 minutes, 21 seconds
conversations.
The GOP has a problem with child sex crimes. Okay? And the Democrats
need to make this something that they campaign on in the fall.30:32
30 minutes, 32 seconds
Okay? because and speaking of the way kids are treated, a New Jersey school district Yeah. uh is having to pay30:40
30 minutes, 40 seconds
$950,000 after a transgender student died by taking uh their own life, Miles30:47
30 minutes, 47 seconds
Fitzpatrick
after bullying and the staff did nothing. And they, you know, the
classmates misgendered him, called him slurs, told him he would never be
a30:56
30 minutes, 56 seconds
male,
pushed him into lockers, kicked him, all this stuff in front of
teachers and staff who did not intervene. Now, you've been in the school
system.31:05
31 minutes, 5 seconds
Well, I just got done uh teaching uh up at a Bronx high school again this past year where there are a number of31:12
31 minutes, 12 seconds
transgender kids. Uh we have any number of gay kids. Um, it was31:19
31 minutes, 19 seconds
rather typical to see uh le young teen lesbian couples holding hands uh in the hallway or walking to the cafeteria. I31:28
31 minutes, 28 seconds
didn't
see too much with the boys, but that's I think an ongoing challenge
with uh our young our young gay men and a number, as I said, of
transgender youth.31:39
31 minutes, 39 seconds
There was no violence. Um there is a very supportive and nurturing environment in the Bronx.31:46
31 minutes, 46 seconds
I'm from the Bronx, so my mother's from the Bronx. Thanks.31:53
31 minutes, 53 seconds
So,
I'm not saying that this is typical of all schools. Um, and it's
certainly not typical of the schools I first started working at when I
came out of32:02
32 minutes, 2 seconds
college, but what happened to this kid in New Jersey is heartbreaking. And it never I can say this with with uh32:12
32 minutes, 12 seconds
assurance.
Well, for a while they even gave him the right to change in a separate
room because he was being so arrested and then they took that right away
from him.32:19
32 minutes, 19 seconds
Well, something happened at the uh at the very beginning of this process in which this kid's uh safety was put in jeopardy.32:28
32 minutes, 28 seconds
Now, the county, Somerset County, typically votes for Democrats, especially when it comes to president,32:36
32 minutes, 36 seconds
but this is where Bedminster is. Oh, so there are some nooks Trump the Trump golf course.32:43
32 minutes, 43 seconds
Yeah, there are some nooks and crannies, I'm sure, up in Somerset County where uh if you're a trans kid, it might be it32:51
32 minutes, 51 seconds
might be less than hospitable, unfortunately.32:54
32 minutes, 54 seconds
Yeah.
I mean, the mother tried to let him be homeschooled because on at least
one occasion, he sat in class with bloody sleeves and educators took no
action.33:02
33 minutes, 2 seconds
He was he was selfharming.33:03
33 minutes, 3 seconds
I mean, you know, come on. And uh they wouldn't let him be homeschooled. Well, all right.33:10
33 minutes, 10 seconds
We
don't know the exact details, but the the the uh tragedy of this kid
losing his life uh speaks volumes, and it it it never should have
happened.33:20
33 minutes, 20 seconds
Yes. And here's some trans men who are standing up for all trans men. This is33:26
33 minutes, 26 seconds
in Kansas. They have a law that you have to go use the facilities uh based on33:33
33 minutes, 33 seconds
your sex at birth. And so they're transmen. There they are, burly transmen with beards in many cases and all that33:41
33 minutes, 41 seconds
kind of stuff. So they they use the women's room, which they are required to do by law. And so the police arrive were33:50
33 minutes, 50 seconds
called and they arrived and uh they started screaming at them and you know33:57
33 minutes, 57 seconds
they knew that this was likely. Um, but you know, they didn't allege that any of the uh uh that women were agitated by34:06
34 minutes, 6 seconds
their by their presence, but this is the law in in Kansas. So, this is their way of fighting it. Well, it was civil34:13
34 minutes, 13 seconds
disobedience because there were actions of the same sort all across the state, at different at malls, at different34:21
34 minutes, 21 seconds
venues
where there were bathrooms. So, one of them said, "Look, I could easily
use the men's room and I'd be under the radar. I got a beard and all
this.34:27
34 minutes, 27 seconds
Nobody's
going to Nobody's going to Nobody's going to stop me. But that is
illegal and it's enough to land me in jail, he said. And I want people
outside34:36
34 minutes, 36 seconds
of Kansas to understand that. Come on, Andy. Get your next page.34:41
34 minutes, 41 seconds
That many of us don't want to leave the state, no matter how bad it gets. But every time I drive with an F on my34:48
34 minutes, 48 seconds
license now, I'm I'm now identified as female. Uh uh or use the restroom, I fear for my safety.34:56
34 minutes, 56 seconds
Yeah. I think and they're sticking it out, right? I think that we have to get to a point where uh people are are not being35:04
35 minutes, 4 seconds
targeted
by the Department of Motor Vehicles and other state agencies. The the
temperature on this entire issue needs to be lowered.35:11
35 minutes, 11 seconds
Well, this needs to be a medical issue and not a political issue.35:15
35 minutes, 15 seconds
Please,
it's I remember when it was sort of under the radar, you know, when
there was there was a level of tolerance, but the right-wing media has
made this their35:24
35 minutes, 24 seconds
issue. I don't watch Fox News very often, but if you do, uh, you know, it's not war news, it's trans.35:30
35 minutes, 30 seconds
It's how Camala Harris lost. It's how it's how Harris lost in 2024. Well, those those trans ads were devastating.35:38
35 minutes, 38 seconds
A contributing factor. I mean, it was also, you know, economic issues, but but uh uh a contributing factor, but I mean,35:46
35 minutes, 46 seconds
we could say all I would say a significant contributing factor. can say all you can say all this about she had this35:54
35 minutes, 54 seconds
position on trans things that was you know unpopular but what about Trump's manifest crimes36:01
36 minutes, 1 second
sexual convicted of sexual harassment all that stuff and that's overlooked no no Andy the ads the GOP ran36:09
36 minutes, 9 seconds
I know I remember them against Camala Harris were devastating okay in Kansas you have an attorney36:17
36 minutes, 17 seconds
general Kris Kobach who is a hardight fanatic. Sure.36:22
36 minutes, 22 seconds
An ideologue. You know, it raises the point I brought up earlier in the show. What is this guy hiding?36:28
36 minutes, 28 seconds
What's really behind this guy? I I I So, I did I did the Googling. Harvard,36:35
36 minutes, 35 seconds
Yale Law, PhD at Oxford. This is This is no dummy.36:40
36 minutes, 40 seconds
If only they'd used it for good instead of evil.36:42
36 minutes, 42 seconds
Correct.
And a failed candidate for Senate. A failed candidate for governor.
governor and now they have a Democratic they have a Democratic governor
now latest crusade.36:53
36 minutes, 53 seconds
They have a Democratic governor in in Kansas.36:55
36 minutes, 55 seconds
Well, I give these I give these individuals in Kansas uh in this uh compliance crew operation a lot of credit.37:04
37 minutes, 4 seconds
Right. More Trump crimes. The Trump DOJ just extorted a children's hospital in Connecticut. Dump your trans patients.37:13
37 minutes, 13 seconds
Yeah. pay us $500,000 and we'll disappear. So, the Connecticut Children's Medical Center in Hartford37:22
37 minutes, 22 seconds
signed on to all that. Where is the lawsuit that is going to put an end to these hospital extortions?37:27
37 minutes, 27 seconds
There are several uh but we got to get to this. In pit in Pittsburgh, the Trump administration is abandoning its effort37:35
37 minutes, 35 seconds
to
obtain sensitive medical records from transgender young people who
receive gender affirming care at the Children's Hospital of Pittsburgh.
Okay, they gave37:44
37 minutes, 44 seconds
up on the case because they were being sued and they were challenged.37:48
37 minutes, 48 seconds
But, and this is the big butt, the big news this week is in a new assault on trans youth care, the administration now37:57
37 minutes, 57 seconds
under bars Medicaid and CHIP, children's health coverage for the necessary health care that these young people need. So,38:06
38 minutes, 6 seconds
now they're now they're just saying nobody can do it.38:09
38 minutes, 9 seconds
Okay. the journal JAMA, the journal of the American Medical Association.38:15
38 minutes, 15 seconds
Uh I did some research in preparing for the topic.38:20
38 minutes, 20 seconds
There are 724,000 13 to 17 year olds in the US who identify as trans who receive private38:29
38 minutes, 29 seconds
insurance, I guess, under their parents' job or whatever.38:33
38 minutes, 33 seconds
724,000 kids in the United States 13 to 17 who38:39
38 minutes, 39 seconds
identify as trans. Only a tiny portion of those individuals will ever get38:46
38 minutes, 46 seconds
gender treatment care, hormonal therapy, or any puberty blockers, any type of uh surgical uh38:54
38 minutes, 54 seconds
surgical almost never almost never. NPR, National Public Radio, reports that only39:03
39 minutes, 3 seconds
1,000 to 2,000 of privately insured kids who selfidentify as trans get hormones.39:13
39 minutes, 13 seconds
We are talking about tiny small segments of the population which and tiny small39:20
39 minutes, 20 seconds
segments of the population are easy to attack because one second two questions. Why is the president of39:28
39 minutes, 28 seconds
the United States who is currently now running a war in the Middle East this fixated?39:33
39 minutes, 33 seconds
Didn't I answer on something that is a tiny sliver of the population that question earlier in the show?39:39
39 minutes, 39 seconds
Hang on. And distraction.39:40
39 minutes, 40 seconds
And number two, how are the Democrats able to leverage this in a way in which they can win votes and take back power?39:50
39 minutes, 50 seconds
Well,
the Democrats have been, to their credit, for the most part been
standing firm on this. But he never gives up on it. He he says at press
conferences,40:00
40 minutes
this is such an easy win for me. Uh it's a 90% issue, meaning 90% of the people are on my side. Why the obsession, Andy?40:08
40 minutes, 8 seconds
Because because he he sees it as a winner. And you just said it hurt Kla Harris very badly. So, you know, but I40:17
40 minutes, 17 seconds
think we have seen data that in the last couple of elections it's fading in its effectiveness. They're still going to40:25
40 minutes, 25 seconds
spend millions of dollars running anti-trans ads and because of people are get wising up. It's starting to have40:33
40 minutes, 33 seconds
much
less effect. It they used it against the governors of the women who run
governorships in New Jersey and Virginia. Didn't work.40:41
40 minutes, 41 seconds
Did not work. Right.40:42
40 minutes, 42 seconds
It didn't. It didn't work. And and that is that is why I'm hoping that this wave that I can see cresting will continue to40:51
40 minutes, 51 seconds
push this issue away. We just hope it doesn't crest from the political arena.40:57
40 minutes, 57 seconds
Let's get to some other news. How about some crime news? Uh this New York situation in Brooklyn, uh well, excuse41:04
41 minutes, 4 seconds
me, Queens. It's a Brooklyn man who faces murder charges, right? This guy, uh Carlos Penzo is the41:11
41 minutes, 11 seconds
victim. He's 36. lived in one of these new towers in Long Island City. Long Island City has been built up. That's Carlos. Yeah.41:18
41 minutes, 18 seconds
Yeah. Poor Carlos. And rest in peace. God bless him. Um I I find these stories heartbreaking.41:27
41 minutes, 27 seconds
Well, tell what happened.41:28
41 minutes, 28 seconds
Well,
for many years I did it as a reporter for Gay City News for the New
York Times, New York One News. I did plenty of murder stories. When it's
a41:37
41 minutes, 37 seconds
gay man, it's heartbreaking. And we don't know the the uh circumstances in their entirety. And I want to just raise41:44
41 minutes, 44 seconds
this point. We don't know that these guys were hooking up. We don't know how they know each other or knew each other.41:50
41 minutes, 50 seconds
And we don't know how one was brought to the apartment. The guy saying they met on social media.41:56
41 minutes, 56 seconds
It's likely that's how most of these uh uh you know, acquaintances uh you know,42:04
42 minutes, 4 seconds
do connect. But we don't know the reason why the guy showed up at Carlos's uh apartment in Long Island City. The guy's42:13
42 minutes, 13 seconds
name is uh what's the per's name? Penzo. No, that's the victim. Oh, that's the victim. I apologize.42:21
42 minutes, 21 seconds
Bertford. I don't I don't have the the per's name. Bretford Brewer.42:28
42 minutes, 28 seconds
Thank you. Brettford Brewer, also 36.42:30
42 minutes, 30 seconds
Brettford Marshall Brewer. He's got two priors in Alabama for apparently violating orders of protection. So, like42:39
42 minutes, 39 seconds
so many other people, he wound up in New York City. Um, I don't know exactly when, and then he wound up in the uh in42:48
42 minutes, 48 seconds
the building of Carlos Penzo where he's now being charged with seconddegree murder.42:52
42 minutes, 52 seconds
It's a crazy story. The He was seen on the rooftop of the 51tory high-rise nude42:59
42 minutes, 59 seconds
attempting
to destroy security cameras with a fire extinguisher. He's trying to
cover this up. He was also seen on the fourth floor pounding on a door. I
don't43:08
43 minutes, 8 seconds
know
if that was kind of No, I don't know if that was Carlos Penzo's door.
He might have left the apartment and he left his belongings43:15
43 minutes, 15 seconds
inside
and then he had to come back in to get them. We don't know. But we're
obviously dealing with a volatile and dangerous situation and the guy
has been43:24
43 minutes, 24 seconds
caught. I had read in on some other news sites that there were other individuals who may or may not have been present.43:32
43 minutes, 32 seconds
They may have been in the apartment. This is not confirmed.43:35
43 minutes, 35 seconds
Well, let's pay some tribute to Carlos Penzo. He was he spent his time volunteering at soup kitchens. Yeah.43:42
43 minutes, 42 seconds
Caring for a sick mother according to his brother and was beloved by his family and others and and will be deeply missed.43:51
43 minutes, 51 seconds
And then we've got a situation right down the block from me. Uh broad well a couple of blocks Broadway and 29th43:59
43 minutes, 59 seconds
Street. Uh these two guys uh were ages 30. Well, no, these two guys went after44:06
44 minutes, 6 seconds
two gay men, ages 31 and 37, shouting slurs and attacking them. And so we're44:13
44 minutes, 13 seconds
looking for them. Um the one guy was treated at NYU Langon with minor injuries. The younger man was treated at44:21
44 minutes, 21 seconds
the
scene. Um and they're trying to find these perpetrators. And that's the
thing. If you commit a crime these days, you're likely to be on camera.44:31
44 minutes, 31 seconds
Absolutely. And I have to say that the NYPD, the cops are much much better at responding to these types of uh44:39
44 minutes, 39 seconds
incidents and labeling it the hate crime that it is.44:42
44 minutes, 42 seconds
Right.
And quite frankly, there are a hell of a lot more gay and lesbian cops
than there were when I was a kid growing up. Well, sure. A lot more gay
and lesbian cops.44:50
44 minutes, 50 seconds
I
mean, I remember when the first gay cop came out back in the early 80s.
Uh but even even when gay cops would march on the pride parade, they
would mostly44:59
44 minutes, 59 seconds
wear
dark glasses and hats pulled down and now they're out, you know, out in
the open. Of course, there are controversies about cops and parades. We
could talk about that another time. Then45:07
45 minutes, 7 seconds
there's
this, you brought this to my attention. You know, everybody's heard
about the Gilgo Beach killer on Long Island. This guy went after sex
workers,45:15
45 minutes, 15 seconds
killed
many of them. He's in prison for life uh upstate, way upstate. But they
police, this is the other thing about police. I I would call it
sensitivity.45:26
45 minutes, 26 seconds
They're trying to identify one of the somebody they think isn't a victim that they call Asian dough and that's this45:33
45 minutes, 33 seconds
victim, which is a reconstruction, a male murder victim found buried in women's clothing. Yeah.45:40
45 minutes, 40 seconds
In 2011. But so these cops and and they're not letting it go. They went to Chinatown to try to45:48
45 minutes, 48 seconds
get DNA from people with their ethnicity and see if they could finally identify who this is.45:56
45 minutes, 56 seconds
Yeah, I know three people. That's impressive.45:58
45 minutes, 58 seconds
It is. But it's it's taken them an awfully long time to get some traction on this case. And there's also something46:04
46 minutes, 4 seconds
objectionable I I I I find in referring to this murder victim as Asian dough.46:11
46 minutes, 11 seconds
It's, you know, we don't say uh white dough or it's or uh black dough. And so,46:18
46 minutes, 18 seconds
you know, it's I I I I appreciate the effort by SuffK and Raymond Tierney, the DA, to try to get some headway on this,46:26
46 minutes, 26 seconds
but this victim has been uh u the murder has gone unsolved for far too long.46:34
46 minutes, 34 seconds
Well, they're not 100% sure that he was killed by Rex Hoyerman, who was the46:41
46 minutes, 41 seconds
Gilgo Beach killer, but it follows the pattern.46:44
46 minutes, 44 seconds
Well, there was reporting that Hoyerman had done online research into right uh uh Asian twinks,46:52
46 minutes, 52 seconds
Asian
twinks, transvestites that and I mean it's I don't put anything past
someone like Rex. Well, he's at the state's infamous Little47:00
47 minutes
Siberia prison up isolated in the frigid Aderondock mountains near the Canadian border.47:08
47 minutes, 8 seconds
All right. Um, and Rudy Giuliani, speaking of criminals, is really losing it and transvestites.47:14
47 minutes, 14 seconds
He he said on YouTube last week that Mayor Mom Donny's plan to expand free child care to six months old is a scheme47:22
47 minutes, 22 seconds
to turn babies transgender. Talk about the obsession with this. Uh what can you47:29
47 minutes, 29 seconds
possibly
teach a baby at that age? He said how to hate the parents. That's what
they're going to teach them. He's just he's really lost it. Yeah, I
know.47:39
47 minutes, 39 seconds
He's he's he has played a central and prominent role in the city and in the47:46
47 minutes, 46 seconds
nation in fact. But it is now time that Rudy Giuliani be put out to pasture.47:50
47 minutes, 50 seconds
Well,
yes. I mean, he said it's they're going to teach him it's okay to be a
transvestite. And as you say, Rudy crossdressed many times.47:58
47 minutes, 58 seconds
Well, publicly.47:59
47 minutes, 59 seconds
Yeah,
we can give him credit for one or two things that he did that, you
know, might have helped out his uh his native town, but I think Rudy's
time has passed.48:08
48 minutes, 8 seconds
Please. Then there's Miss North Carolina USA. This is part of the MissUSA pageant. Brittany Boltonhouse. She was48:16
48 minutes, 16 seconds
stripped of her title after alleged racist posts re resurfaced. She used the n-word a lot in these things. And so48:24
48 minutes, 24 seconds
they said, "Look, this is toxic. You can't keep your crown. Um, and she's she she thinks she's being persecuted48:31
48 minutes, 31 seconds
because
she's a Trump supporter." Well, if this is the way you think as a Trump
supporter, you know, then it's objectionable. Uh,48:39
48 minutes, 39 seconds
well, she's no uh, how do I put it? Best Meerson.48:44
48 minutes, 44 seconds
You know who was who Miss America, first Jewish, Miss America, and Ed Cotch's beard. That's right. beard and sideburns.48:53
48 minutes, 53 seconds
By the way, I have a correction to make.48:55
48 minutes, 55 seconds
A viewer reminded me that General CQ Brown, who was one of HEGs victims, he was chair of the uh joint chiefs of49:02
49 minutes, 2 seconds
staff, is of course not the first black chairman. The first black chairman was Colon Powell. Yes.49:09
49 minutes, 9 seconds
And
I of course remember him. another Bronx boy who came around on our
issues, but when Clinton was trying to get gays in the military, Colon
Powell sank that.49:22
49 minutes, 22 seconds
All right. Uh, international news. Uh, the gay director and playwright Peter Gil has died at 86. Um, he began as an49:30
49 minutes, 30 seconds
actor in the 50s and he switched to directing and he became associate director of the National Theater until 1997.49:38
49 minutes, 38 seconds
but he wrote a play called The York Realist um that I saw when it was in the West End and it was set in the pre-49:46
49 minutes, 46 seconds
Stonewall 1960s about an affair between a Yorkshire farmer and a London theater director. I think he was trying to tell49:53
49 minutes, 53 seconds
us
something probably based on his experience and they have this palpable
love for each other but they can't overcome the ties that one has to the50:02
50 minutes, 2 seconds
country and the other to the city. But it was it was a quiet play. It was a beautiful play. If it ever gets revived,50:09
50 minutes, 9 seconds
take
a look at it. Uh Jonathan Bailey did a revival of it. Reese, you have
Did you have that picture? The second picture there again? Yeah, that's50:17
50 minutes, 17 seconds
Jonathan Bailey there, the famous. This is back couple of years ago doing a revival of the show with uh Ben Bat.50:26
50 minutes, 26 seconds
Anyway, York Realist. Okay. HIV AIDS news. All right. Bathouses. We have some time.50:33
50 minutes, 33 seconds
Yes. uh Eric Botcher, Tony Simone, all the gay elected officials are proposing to the state that we end the ban from 4050:42
50 minutes, 42 seconds
years ago on gay bathous. Uh what do you think? Well, as you and I50:50
50 minutes, 50 seconds
discussed, London, Paris, Berlin all have fairly profitable operating gay50:58
50 minutes, 58 seconds
bathous.
I wasn't able to get the bottom line on these places cuz I guess these
are privately held. They're not Toronto has many, many of them,51:05
51 minutes, 5 seconds
right? Uh Montreal, correct? Uh Chicago, uh and elsewhere around the United States.51:11
51 minutes, 11 seconds
We
had We had a picture up there of what goes on in the bath house. You
come in, you check your clothes, you put a towel on, and you look for
sex.51:19
51 minutes, 19 seconds
Or maybe not.51:20
51 minutes, 20 seconds
Oh, yeah. I mean, I've, you know, I I wasn't at the old schwanky bathous like the Continental, but no, no, Continental51:29
51 minutes, 29 seconds
may
have been upscale at one time by the time I got there, and I used to go
to bathous when I was a kid. Uh, what were you doing in them?51:36
51 minutes, 36 seconds
What
are you doing in them? You're looking You're looking for You're looking
for love. I actually met a boyfriend there once and went out with him
for a long time. For how long?51:45
51 minutes, 45 seconds
Well,
not I wouldn't say it wasn't one of my longer term relationships. He
was kind of a funny guy. Uh but uh you know, we had some fun.51:54
51 minutes, 54 seconds
So that night, was it his cubicle or yours? No, no, no. I was leaving.51:59
51 minutes, 59 seconds
Oh, I'm at the I'm at the lockers and I I I I was whistling some classical tune and he picked up the beat and did the52:07
52 minutes, 7 seconds
other
part of it and that's how we connected. And then so we never did
anything in the bath house. We just uh met outside there. There you go.52:16
52 minutes, 16 seconds
There you go.52:16
52 minutes, 16 seconds
It's magic. It sounds like uh something out of a Broadway. Anyway, you know, they've introduced a bill to do this,52:24
52 minutes, 24 seconds
but they're hoping that after the election that Governor Hokll will just change the regulation from the health department.52:32
52 minutes, 32 seconds
I didn't know that she was able to do that. I thought you would have to It wasn't a law. It was never a law. It wasn't a law.52:37
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It was a state health department uh thing.52:40
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So,
who, by the way, who drove this thing? Was it Cotch? Was it No, no,
wait a minute. It was in almost inevitable during the AIDS crisis in52:47
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1986 that they were finally going to ban bathous. So, uh it wasn't it, you know, the they but they passed a regulation52:57
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that said any place uh commercial place where there is anal and oral sex going53:04
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on can be closed. And we in the Coalition for Lesbian and Gay Rights said, "Wait a minute. What about uh53:12
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vaginal sex? You're not you're not telling you gota and they they said and I said why are you including oral sex53:20
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when
it's so low risk they said where there's smoke there's fire that's what
the health commissioner said it was all nonsense and the fact that they
didn't53:27
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include vaginal sex told women you don't have anything to worry about with the AIDS crisis so that's why we sued and we53:34
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eventually
won and they changed the regulation but they still kept the places
closed and we said well you're closing bathous what about hotels where53:42
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all kinds of sex happens happens and it's a commercial establishment. Now look, you know, obviously a lot of HIV53:49
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got
spread in bathous at one time, but they a lot of them made condoms
available and now of course people have protection and and prep and all
these53:58
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things they're not worried about and people and the and the the the gay community rose up and and got a a cure54:07
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to
stop the uh the spread of this disease from being so virilent. It still
goes on, but it's not at this at the rate at which the epidemic once
raged.54:17
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I just want to say the idiot, and I say that, use the word advisedly, the idiot Republican nominee for governor of New54:24
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York, Bruce Blakeman, was asked in the Times about this, and he said, "Provided the facilities are healthy and clean, I54:31
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have no problems with consenting adults taking a bath together." Bruce, that's54:38
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not all that goes on. And I think he knows that, which is why he wants them to be opened again.54:45
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What? Why? Anyway, because he's another GOP, you know what,54:52
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right? All right. We the debate will continue about that. Uh, I want to pay tribute to Susan Duha, the healthc care55:01
55 minutes, 1 second
and
disabilities act advocate and former policy director at JHC, much
beloved, has died at the age of 71. People said she was really one of
the good one.55:10
55 minutes, 10 seconds
Marane, healthcare advocate, really one of the good ones. You know, was was the very sophisticated, knew everything,55:18
55 minutes, 18 seconds
indehaticable. Um, she was a uh just uh I'm going to link to her uh obituary of55:25
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the
times in our email so you can read more about her. She helped pass
landmark health insurance reforms in New York that became the Affordable
Healthcare55:34
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Act. um lasting legacy with people with disabilities, fierce Medicaid advocate, all that stuff. Uh Susan Duha.55:45
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And then there then there is the Florida pastor Timothy Cheney Field, 42 of55:52
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Winter Haven. He's accused of having sex with a 14-year-old boy and a 26-y old dog, hiding his Well, that's rape with a55:59
55 minutes, 59 seconds
kid and hiding his HIV diagnosis. No, we don't want the criminalization of of, you know, HIV, having sex when you have56:08
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HIV,
but when you're with when you're with and in the and the adult did get
HIV, but the 14-year-old boy, I mean, that's just rape,56:16
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right?
Another pastor, another uh person in control of kids, the pastor of the
St. James United American Free Will Baptist Church.56:26
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There you go. It's not what I do, it's what I say, right? And that's all that matters with pastors.56:32
56 minutes, 32 seconds
Uh, a new alert about trans men and breast cancer risk because even when you've had breast reduction, you have56:41
56 minutes, 41 seconds
more stuff going on there and um a higher risk than uh cisgendered men. uh56:50
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cisgendered
men are at risk as well for breast cancer, but they're just alerting
people to get checked even if you've had a risk reducing mastctomy.57:02
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And then there's we're we're down to our last minute. Uh Sam Smith is celebrating the start of a new chapter in life. He57:10
57 minutes, 10 seconds
confirmed that he and Christian Cowan, the fashion designer, excuse me, he they that's the pronoun that Sam uses. uh Sam57:19
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uh
partner Christian Cowan, the fashion designer who was dressed the likes
of Lady Gaga and all those kinds of they have gotten engaged.57:27
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Congratulations.57:27
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Congratulations to them. They met at the Met Gala in 2024. Down to our last 30 seconds. I see that uh Jeff Bezos is57:37
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giving another documentary to Melania Trump so he can more gravy funnel more money to the terrible. Nice57:45
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to be with you. Pleasure to be with you, Andy.57:47
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Nice and informal and loose here. We will see you next week when I will be with Kathy Marino Thomas. Beautiful.Follow along using the transcript.
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